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|headrushmusic wrote: |
|I don't know...after a full day of talking about this, I'm not sure we have any more clarity on what it is needs to happen, other than "work together," which in my mind, requires to some degree having the same goals. Beyond just getting more people through the doors at our events, do we really have anything else in common?
Aside from just getting more people out, I perceive that each of us has different goals and objectives within the scene. Some DJs want to make a living off of it. Some promoters do, too. Other DJs just want to get out of their bedrooms, and other promoters just celebrated their first event. We've got the whole label/artist/promotions/international thing going. Others just want to 'keep it real' midwest-style. Some people want to sell records. Others want to sell booze. Some people want sex at their events. Others just want music and a good trip. It occurs to me that the reason there's no scene unity is because we all want varying goals that sometimes conflict with one another.
Is there any unity around wanting a big collaborative event that's a fundraiser for the Kerry/Edwards campaign ?
Well said, Amy, however selling records is not my only motive. I was just as active on the internet before the store and my passion for the scene (for those that knew me) was there previous as well. That is a common misconception that some people have (usually those sitting back juging everyone). So let me clear that up. Does anyone that was around in 96 remember taking a "nightlife" poll on the internet? That was mine.
I think ultimately everyone wants to see each other suceed. However, we can't do that unless we learn to respect the goals of others. Not only do we need to respect the goals of other, but promoters have to be willing to change the dynamics of their events so that they will strengthen the overall scene. For Koala Tea, maybe that means putting some house or trance in the lineup. Hard Prog/Trance seemed to work well when Quantum openef for Dieselboy. For Headrush, maybe it means that booking capable non-progressive djs to open for progressive headliners wouldn't be a bad idea. Who knows?
The one thing I really think we need to work on is:
Respect the goals of others.
The thing I hate the most is when those with NO GOALS shit on everyone with them. Or, most recently, promoters not making their "claimed" dates clear enough so that they aren't cutting into the same crowd.
One more time, since no one responded to it, wasn't Festivus supposed to be the first step in a collaborative event? I know some people who are out of town might want to add their input on all of this as well.
I think we need to take this discussion private, and work on a real set of goals.